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[Music] sometimes I gotta be as plain as possible so people just gravitates I know you different from the artist I'm gonna say his name I know you're different from that artist but The Duality you talking about I'm like Yay right yay producer also rap we know that the Beats is a certain way and then what do you say rhyme-wise it's kind of like you know what I mean like you understand them first when he in that zone but then he got me and Jay-Z producer did the beach and then this billionaire croissant and then trying to do the politics thing and then there's a lot of [ __ ] going yeah that's a lot that's a lot going on but but it's all part of him so it's like yeah but hold on but but now you like you were saying and orange so when it comes time to make that album which one are you going to be or you're going to be all of them it starts to get crazy can't help but be all of them whether you're going to be on your new music I'm curious I want to know me me I'm always successful yeah the answer is I'm gonna be the guy that knows a lot more than the guy that you met yeah the right thing and all on your team the right people on your team at that time when you were 19 years old it's more that goes into it than just picking beats first of all they have to establish a level of trust with you whereas a 19 year old is going to look at you and go what you tell me to do I'm gonna trust you and do that right and that that's that's the start because otherwise I'm gonna do what I want to do that's the artist's attitude I'm gonna do what I want to do the [ __ ] are you talking about you don't know me you don't know nothing I'm gonna do what I want to do all right okay they can't work with this kid I can't work with them you gotta let him do what he's gonna and he's gonna fall in his face a bunch of times you just gotta hope that one time when he fall into place you don't do too much of them you don't break his nose into his brain maybe he just lose a couple people he'll come back that's a bad artist like me I didn't do that I went to Rock Gym crib five times five days in a row before he would even do the record with me first two days he didn't talk to me I didn't say you were satin corner like this man roll this blunt from this rock it's always one badge to him back then maybe the third day they passed the one to me right so I already knew how to behave around my elders man stuff you talking about I don't really know why artists would do that he's just running into a brick wall man you're gonna kill yourself I'm taking examples from your story so yeah so to try to be successful and when it came time to like rock him to do the record they would say hey my deep my aunt all kept asking because nobody was allowed to go and send me Dino was like yo how much do I want for the track I said I don't know every day he asked me I don't know I don't know he said he'll ask him I asked him wow so he said so he said man just ask him so I never did Dino had to go ask him where I said yo talk to Bert so Bert is 112 with a pledge everybody right so so verse said eight right came back said he won eight I went to Eloise Brian Brian University told Eloise to cut Rod check for 13. I'm saying that's on my heartbeat why because I really did like love rise or Lyricist if he wanted eight eight to take care of some [ __ ] to get straight to 13 so do what you want to do that was my I had a budget that was my way you know what I'm saying and I did that with all G Rap all of the [ __ ] I loved I really like came out the pocket to deal with it especially when I had a budget I was Reckless with the budget because that was one minute showing that yo there's no lip service I really like I really look up to you without having to say that more than once or twice right right so being the being successful part I get it it's just that line of The Duality what you're talking about where you wanna that's why I was saying to you like I really do want to be a part of something where not like the carers want y'all to build the nation the hip-hop or the temple hip-hop and never get built something that like this is a landmark y'all should know that this is a landmark and and and you you do gotta like have a like a timeout like the ivy people have a time-out zone or safe space right for for our folks because they get jammed up man where it's like yo they gotta Flex with the runs we chose bigger than that dude yeah it's not about no Rhymes you probably one of the only ones that made it through the battle circuit to this name another one it ain't happened names is different I look at names he's got on because what he did and what have you struggle but remember that whole the Everlast the Vinnie past the Ill Bill they kind of get like a pass to you know go they can go overseas and get with a DJ scribble or go do a tour for years and come back with bread and then they have to jump rope the way that we did right so it's necessary to create that kind of safe space because we don't really have a fallback or a safety net and a lot of people all [ __ ] do got is rap no I mean I'm a captain you know what I mean I can capture My Yacht and pull up to that [ __ ] I'm not I'm just I'm telling you that's the reality right I could literally pull up [ __ ] gonna be with their phones like yo who's that that's cannabis and I can pull up and play second round just ignorant [ __ ] right I'm not gonna do that but I can't do it though man but I would have done it without anybody help see that's the difference between like what I went through God was really on my back I'm learning lessons and things that I had to go through right but I'm trying to give back too it's just difficult for me to give back without the co-sign because then it looks like oh you just trying to sell records or you just trying to I don't know clean it up or so the code sign is important I don't feel like you need a co-sign I feel like is more of you just need an area of no conflict you think what I'm saying and in the same way that you looked at the life after death cover and you was like y'all know if you're gonna make it listening to your Rhymes you had to know I don't know if people are gonna like really [ __ ] with me because I'm basically [ __ ] on everybody on a record you think what I'm saying I'm putting off this Persona like I'm better than you the reason I said the wrong the greatest rapper of all time down on March 9th I didn't say it because I was trying to capture a moment that [ __ ] I would have been crazy to say for that reason I appreciate thank you for that line by the way I said it because I was in 10 dog Patterson's office went Park when he called Puff on the jack on the Star Tech razor jump and puff answered the phone he was on the speed boat and hypnotized it was on the speedboat I heard the helicopter he said yo baby I can't hear you talk up he was on a speedboat and he was like yo man we too said we puffles Sykes man he was happy he's like yo man yesterday I was driving backwards in the drop e [ __ ] wait till you see it I'll do 80 miles an hour he was hyped right and he said yo homie I'm gonna send I'm gonna send you the footage so I said and this is on my heartbeat apartment for you I said I said that's what I said to dog now remember I'm just intern a man is Lost Boys co-man is lost but I'm an intern dog really listened to me he took the phone tell him to come home because it was hot at that time right for him out there in L.A right and I see a little time to come obviously yeah so Daddy so look so we try to y'all got like what one more day to shot it's a rapper said nah we got two more days in the shot just Puffs in so he said all right so look so after that y'all wrapping up coming up after three days he said nah [ __ ] we out here for two weeks so then dog was like two weeks it's like yeah we got Awards and [ __ ] to go through all that I'm sitting in the room yeah me man I'm looking at them old ass phones with the intercom [ __ ] right puff used to throw a lot of those against the wall you know saying so the temp dog [ __ ] get angry right and I said I said yo so I stopped saying anything I wasn't saying that no more like a week later a couple days later what happened happened I said it because of that that's why I wrote that line because it was just so close to home you know a woman you're on the speedboat and you in LA and everything's good and then the next minute you know what I mean the whole world is going crazy because you know what I mean it's like over he had to pop so I saw how it goes too far right and it'll be brothers into being like I'm one of them [ __ ] I'm still that guy right tell him to come home man tell him to go ahead and fix that up you know and smooth that out fix it up you know what I mean and I know that there's there's there's things that is trying to prevent Brothers like me like how you got to this you got to this first down touchdown really Super Bowl kind of thing from from from being that that different Wing it's an option it's an exit on the highway that [ __ ] get on the highway and can't get off you gotta provide that for them yeah you gotta provide it for them a little time out for roadside assistance yeah you know what I'm saying yeah I ain't gonna deviate no more but yeah well I gotta I wanted to talk to you about something that after you know smoke cleared I can see how the industry and the experience that you had in it was really conflicted how did you get to the point where you said I'm going to join the Army [Music] um 2001. the towers happened changed New York forever yeah even though everybody that listen to rap music who's able to escape the reality of what happened in New York and what how it was going to change both the USA and the world was able to escape through rap some people probably don't even remember you know the towers and how that changed America and the rest of the world forever because they were busy doing something else rap music was one of those you know distractions I was in the in a situation where you know I had to be kind of serious because I used to live right over there across the across the water Jersey City the place called Avalon Cove 65 55 Avalon Cove not too far from Newport Mall in the gym over there in the treadmill not like I needed the cardio but I go in there because I was paying like 3 400 a month and I was I figured why not if we go in the gyms think up the equipment for a little while right when I used to jog I was looking at Windows of the world the towers you know what I mean so and I I did for the Spin Magazine I took a shot where I flew around they took the door off West Side Highway that little helicopter joint I had to take the door but they took the door off and I was hanging out the [ __ ] Chopper in front of the towers so I took all that serious and in my mind I was thinking to myself you know what I need to do something else before I get too old I at that time I thought that this rap thing the issues with the institutions was never going to go away it was so heavy I was like you know what I'm still young enough I can still Sprint I can still you know what I can still get busy a little bit like physically and what have you so I said man I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and take this little ASVAB test you know and I want to fly Jets I was so serious about it I went to Westchester New York Westchester Yonkers men to go get laser surgery for six bands you know I mean three bands I I was so serious right about a second best doctor in the world he had the steadiest hands in the world eye doctor cut the corneal flap over peel it back you know you take a little eyeball pretty ass nurses rubbing this nicotine or something numb it right and then they take the clip and they pull the eyeball out and then they take the laser things and you can smell the Flesh of your eyeball burning it's all burnt the cones and I could see I could jet ski without glasses do whatever you know salt water jet ski into Miami I could do all the contacts I could do all that right because those are clear friends yeah right did that to go to the service come to find out 27 28 is the cutoff date for you know any type of jet flying any Jet flight school all that right so then I was stuck with so then at that point I'd done all that work and [ __ ] on myself I'm like I'm going somewhere anyway right I would have went to Ukraine back there right you know I was trying to get away and go do something else to Define myself to myself right and so I did I followed all the way through with it I was a striker driver you know what I mean um troop transport you know used to carry Marines we used to you know a big man Drop Striker is a eight wheel vehicle 40 tons it's got eight wheels four on that side rabbit mold Turtle mold you know what I mean cheap transports live 25 like a serious piece of equipment right I'm probably the only one in the room that could drive it yeah except for my man over here that's a decent and then Cali Rex like you drive everyone Abrams right so this is something that like we can do if something happened right now it's enough people in here to Fitness Striker I know how to get in there drop the ramp you know what I'm saying y'all jump in there right you understand rap to me was something that I knew that if I didn't get away from it and do something else I'd have been stuck with that forever so I tried to do something else right and I did and you did right were there any experiences over there that you remember that made you feel like this this is why this was worth it now over there meeting over in Afghanistan or Iraq I didn't go I trained with my troop Pat Tillman Patrick Tillman I don't know if anybody remembers him you know he was a ranger we used to PT on the same field in Tacoma Washington and Pat Tillman like you know died you know by fracture side I mean it was a big thing for us there at the I mean I know that everybody in this room don't necessarily couldn't maybe wrap their mind around how serious that was but if you look it up on the internet you'll still see you know crumbs and threads about it and it was so Pat Tillman played for the Patriots he was he was and he gave all that up basically he did what I did yeah like exponential though it was exponential he had he was a millionaire he had the H2 Hummer you know what I mean it was crazy but he went into the Marines no he went into the Rangers yeah on the first you know what I mean he was there like we used to PT on the same field I see him coming in and out of Madigan gate at um you know Fort Lewis he had a H2 and for some reason I had a I had a 67-68 Camaro it was yellow with black Racing Stripes like bumblebee you know what I'm saying you know I got that um I got that because you know when you're speeding and you're in a foreign you know these Ivory boys not letting you go when you got an American Muscle to say hey son you know how fast you was going son officer I apologize I just got out the shop what you got under the hood you know what I mean it's American right right I'm giving that away you know because it's true yeah you know you slow down there son all right yes yes our officer you know what I mean get my ID and stuff so every single time going in an automatic again gentleman would see me and wave at me because everybody wanted to know what was under the hood it was a lt198 vet engine in a 67-68 Camaro I used to spank the Subarus all that it was a seven-speed Richmond transmission Five Point roll cage Five Point seat belt harness stainless steel fuel cell no AC just heat you know what I mean the car was [ __ ] man shout out to David curvature so 50. I was a good soldier man I was the nastiest Striker driver like out so I major always wanted to ride with me because our major when I got to the troop and I seen his picture on the wall because when you get to your barracks got president's picture vice president you know I'm saying uh Secretary of Defense you know you have all right and [Music] um some major pictures up there and uh he looked like 50 man you look like 50 cents right look like Curtis Jackson look like 50. and from that all the brothers would be like yo 50 coming you know what I mean so it's like the Army the Army was the Army is a complicated thing to different Generations the armed services is complicated for different Generations but my time in the army in spite of the fallen and what happened to America in the world like how things turned out um in spite of that I had a good time there was a lot of great relationships shout out to DJ Porter rock you know what I'm saying Pablo Cruise when I showed up to my Barracks he was playing Wu-Tang man I was kind of nervous even showing up there and when I heard hey you you know Minecraft you don't know me and I heard the Russian you know what I'm saying yo apologize you know what I mean protecting like I heard that coming out the barracks window it totally broke that it's like when she said ah yeah you know yeah but the Tillman thing I ain't gonna front man no chasing man when that happened to Tillman somebody [Music] friendly party yeah and um you know I remember I remember uh one one time when we were coming back from from a job you know 1K job we're coming back and uh it was a gate out the backs where they used to PT in the pool and he was going down they were all going down but it was Tillman's turn and he went down into the pool and um there were scubas in the pool maybe about three scoopers already in the pool and so you know he went down there he was down there about a minute and a half right maybe two minutes then he started coming up because this is the drill so we stand by the gate looking so then he's coming up when he comes up or trying to come up they grab him and he can't come up and so he thinks they're playing and stuff you know it feels like somebody playing you know so he like stopped playing a little bit of wiggling you see get more intense he's running out of air then you just see he started throwing scoopers out the pool this is from underwater you know what I mean scuba guys get thrown out of the pool so then two more scoopers jump in and then and then they trying to hold then another two scoopers jumping it took about six scubas hold them down and take them to the bottom he took them to the bottom all bubbles then he pulled him right back up and then brought him back right when he got up he started body slamming him right he spit out the water he got to be so body slamming stuff and then colonel colonel walls over and like you know right to the chest you you [ __ ] raise your what gentlemen see your surgery did act like one right when he moved his hand he had his ranger tabs so you know I saw that on my own too she said now you know what it feels like to drown Brothers will bring you back if they can that kind of movie [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like but I just look at that and I'm seeing that's at that moment I was saying what the [ __ ] am I doing here really though wow military yeah yo Talib kwali got a show right shout out to Talib Talib made a verse saying something crazy about cannabis joining the Army right I could say this with a smile because I love Tyler we talked about it he was very honest and he just kept it above it was like okay because I didn't know right but at that time I was in formation so I made you the same one 50 hardcore you do not want to play with 50. right M7 Gucci seats interior you know what I'm saying spit shine boots you did not go to you did not want to play with 50 right right so now the song I didn't even know it came out right I'm in formation so I made the screams out there out today Williams get the [ __ ] in here all right in front of everybody as I run in there double time in there you know stay in that formation so he says sit down you know what I mean that first of all says no I want him standing so so now I stand [ __ ] did I tell you to get that rest Eddie's go back to formation right right so then he goes goes over to the record player on the TV versus play on his own and then he says you know they I don't know if Madison has cannabis manager you know I want to join the arm yeah and was management I don't know what the [ __ ] that [ __ ] was that I heard yeah but he said who the [ __ ] is Taliban quality [Laughter] does that sound like I made that up I hope so at that moment I realized that I abandoned hip-hop but not that's our wrong reasons but that's how we felt but when he said that I realized I also realized that even then I just needed a hug and he was talking about something that we all got somebody in the service right right that I just related to us that lives in the home with us right or you know that we you know children we sent off right but it's so it the odd the culture Black Culture in America is so immersed in service Armed Forces service right that is no you cannot get it you can't even deny that when he said that in my mind I'm like damn [ __ ] you just dissed an entire you know country a population you know more than you can count just to get that cannabis and make me feel like silly or stupid or whatever yeah and you cost me a whole lot of issues standing there with sergeant major what was that who the [ __ ] is Taliban quality I love you that's why you're a pro so he's a rapper you couldn't really do that with all sort of major but but tell me like like he's a rapper he's a rapper wrong answer I looked at him with the most puppy dog eyes ever man some major I don't know what that is I've been here training with y'all for a year [Laughter] I don't want to know Taliban I do not want to know him you would have got smoke bro for that you would have got smoked yeah because you trained with these guys right and then if that narrative slits into just the wrong aloof mind I think that I'm near to like you know go create mute me or go left or I'm not really there for the reasons I'm there for which is to like yo I want to add on to what you know the hearts and Minds that's when we were trained right right and so I was so [ __ ] angry about that a telephone quality I was so angry and I just said him with hip-hop in general because it's like that's how they look at me man that's what they would do for no [ __ ] reason it's like was the line the you know I never had nobody come to me and say the line was hot I love Talib now we talking now but at the time it's like what did you get for that at least young Z I love young Z let's give it up for Young G young Z came to me and Rod [ __ ] yo GK to me and said one time we went to Shaq's crib that young G straight up just told me man it was like one of the first things he said to me said yo you know me you got the perfect on the same day right I said no I didn't know that say come on [ __ ] I love you say yo I did Eminem I made 800 000 man for that first check yeah it came out straight out [ __ ] you know I made 800 yo you can't see my crib with binoculars I started laughing Young G told me that he did the child you know I got 800 000 for that [ __ ] like yo those you know what I mean yeah just because he was being scared though just coming straight to it like let's get out that that out the way right you know that's what I enjoy man I'm one of those guys just talk to me right I can handle it if you talk to me right if you tell me the truth I could really handle it so you know you know what the beauty of today is Holly squash that by the way right so I'll let squash that he said to me yo man I didn't know cannabis and we hugged because he he said that if he didn't say I didn't try to say what you said was like yo you know he's a rapper like all that type of [ __ ] if he would have said that my dudes we were standing there it was going down I had never been so angry man because they knew about the story right okay solo brought him in the room he said hey [ __ ] look what I got man I got that here yeah you hit me and I was so angry because what happened behind that right but he cleaned it up real fast and I was right there with a mop in the floor with him because I was mopping fools behind that stupid [ __ ] right you know what I mean but here's the thing the beauty of today is um for you to address or for people to get to know you had to go through platforms of places that would be more interested in what they could sell than what you're actually saying [Music] um you know what I mean so you it's hard for people to get to back in the days I felt like there was a real gap between fans and artists because other than their music you didn't know much about it you know unless you knew somebody that was in the neighborhood or grew up with them or a family member or whatever so you were left to the imagination or the Publications that spoke on artists and if they put something out there or they make made something look a certain way that's what it was because we didn't have the connection to say yo is this true you know what I mean it's why I say people say to people if you if you feel a way about a story that's out about you unchecked lie becomes the truth sometimes you if it if it bothers you you're not above it so you should address you feel me so now when people watch this they'll be like oh I I get it now yo yo y'all made polo made the call did I go back right you responded man made it happen right that's what our people need to do so y'all are a shining example of what needs to be done I couldn't have done with the two you did I couldn't have made it happen all by myself right but you dance with me about things you didn't put me in no thin Eyes by myself but you made sure that you were conscious of knowing like yo I did [ __ ] with You Chris I listened to your [ __ ] maybe like you you inspired me to do not even knowing that I was a spying all I was doing was present my resume to the hip-hop World At Large you know both in America overseas I'm Jamaican I should be doing reggae music rat dance but I just loved it rap right I loved what rap was doing how the slang how he was able to do things I just wanted I chose rap yeah but I'm Jamaican like Cali Rags do reggae rocker but he switched it over to he could we could dance right but rap man and I was like a part of all of this what rap turned into and to see y'all doing what y'all do like I wasn't ready for the Battle With Disaster you know aside from the fact that my shoulders ripped out the socket you know but at the same time I wouldn't have been ready anyway I could have been able to dance a little bit better but I wouldn't have done much better because y'all that needed training training coach what y'all do like you say yo this is why I got it I tell any artist that's gonna get into that yo sit with a battle rap right for like a week two weeks I start the school man that's what your career needed early on too that's what I keep hearing you know that's what it is you needed somebody back in the day when you first got started to really walk you through what was about that [ __ ] where were you at man when I knew yeah not far away I hear you hear your interaction with L the right A and R on your team would have told you look this is what's about to happen don't take it personal it's fine go in this room you just want to we leave we'll take care don't express nothing out there you know I'm saying there's a lot of things that you went through I hear a lot of misunderstandings through the circuit of your career a lot of things that could have been easily corrected with a couple of conversations right um a heavier hand on your on your house making process no bro you need a hook no I have to teach you how to make an album for for the radio because your competition lives there and he's going to stomp you if you don't know how to play Mecca you need to learn how to play you know I respect you back up just because of how I've been paying eye contact with you and attention to you you're 100 percent I just don't want it to turn into something where it's like cleft didn't do the best that he could have with me because of why I cut from the foods Jerry won the fries you know what I mean like you know John 14 at the time the band I want to send a shout out to the Whole Foods you spending about the key band the other the instruments the instrumentalists geniuses clap was the only one that introduced me to the world all this Talent you're talking about that y'all be talking about y'all be coming to beat me in the [ __ ] head and I have whatever cleft was the only one that said uh yo listen I need you in the studio right now I was in Justin's to open the grant opening of justice for Jay-Z you know was there right and he he said to be cannabis he said canvas I turned around and I only knew of him I knew of them from you know souls and Mischief JJ got busy with it man come on ain't no [ __ ] you know what I mean like you know what I'm saying maybe Reasonable Doubt like come on you know who Jay-Z was right but the thing is I didn't know anything about him like off duty Clark told me that because Clark is worth clocking shout out the clock yeah shout out to Clark and Peter panic and Peter Panic triple OG he's got to that status now yo Peter Panic he said uh he said uh Clark was like um Club was like yo Jay-Z is going to be God cannabis j-hope you're gonna be Jehovah and he used to say this to me I was younger I'm thinking it had to do with Rhymes and I'm thinking it had to do it yourself I didn't understand business you know just playing I had no idea you know an intellect you know I mean it's reboot Acuity I had no clue all right so Jay is that opening the grand opening of Justice he says this ribbon cutting this is the grand opening but puff happy you know we all happy man he goes uh I think like Donald Trump used to come through man and like see drinks on me and like dude he used to do stuff like that for the like the rappers that was out there getting it that's how we knew like Trump and stuff we didn't see things get political and get thrown out the window and so like man we was just we was coming up and coming through a type of thing where the only color that matter was green yeah that's all that we were seeing right so anyway hoe was like no canvas I turned around yeah he had on all white I don't know if it's around herself I can't remember I can't tell the difference yeah yeah he had on uh yeah he had he had the uh wine glass in his hand white wine like from Cannabis you ready for what this game gonna do to you man so me thinking it was just rapping and Rhymes I said hell yeah I'm ready looking at this [ __ ] man like like I didn't know what he was talking about what he meant at the moment that I said you know hell yeah I'm ready cleft actually angles they just turned me around clefty goes you know a little dresses she said cannabis he said yo where you been man I've been looking for you man listen man I need you in the studio right now man I got this going to November record I need you in the studio right now so me knowing that y'all this is crap from the foods he's like I bought Brandon on reality but the fujis went somewhere else so let me tell you they was like the Beatles man or overseas man people could say whatever they want but when I was able to go from like the Indie right Universal put me in some good Studios but Sony started taking care of everything and I started going to the Hit Factory Chong King you know it was neither quiet no better than any Factory Sony yeah big rooms John King right the big houses getting on presidential class you know what I'm saying version you know what I'm saying all that stuff I think I might have done the Concord I can't remember right when I started doing stuff like that he introduced me to the world going to November like video Single made it a single let me rap put the chain around my neck with the [ __ ] stones in it you know what I'm trying to say like people say what they want and there was no funny business going on right like he did that as a you know I'm saying Caribbean you know what I mean like if I don't it was a Caribbean connection stuff like that he did that to basically say look man they trying to cook you if you don't know yo but but look he didn't say that to me but it's like he felt that in his arm like y'all ain't gonna cook you man let me take your ass overseas man and show you some stuff and calm you down right and his process of calming me down was records like let's ride and what's going on and you know what I mean the problem was I didn't have somebody like you that could have been like all right listen y'all want five second round Knockouts with just different people yeah put that on the album cleft was trying to get me to you know what I mean it sold 20 million albums Hoffa you know what I'm saying at that time I understand my label was doing anything for I understand for who you were to the people who was going to stand online outside of Virgin Mega at six in the morning and get your album that morning true you know you know what I mean didn't translate in that project that's the only time I ever met Nas what did Big say Big [ __ ] was here he we asked him why he why he didn't work with you he said she went on tour with the Fugees and never came back yeah he said yeah he heard yeah he's like oh he want to talk with the food there's nothing wrong with it yeah like I was 18 20. what I'm saying he was like I meant Nas for the first time because of with the Foodies and Knox told me that when he heard the you know DMX you know what I'm saying Nori candy up at Flex he pulled over the car on the on the turnpike and listen to the junk and was like he was like yo what you drinking cannabis said grandma yay right because that's what you know what I'm saying that's what I had started with and um I left that alone but yeah but uh snap he said he said yeah right he said um he said uh he said I pulled over cannabis he said you know I ordered that it came he was like he said you know Kansas man I got to I had to turn around and go back to the crib God like what I was going to do in the studio that night it wasn't gonna make it man I went back to the creek no I said that to you you didn't have to I'm telling you what I experienced because of Club when I came out of the room with knobs little Lounge area stepped on it Maxwell's cannabis hey Maxwell I'm like yo mama there's a lot of this [ __ ] yeah when you believe me if I was sitting in front of this guy right one time I saw Haley Berry hold on it was Eric Benet I came out the studio I didn't I knew the name but I didn't know who he was exactly right and um he was like yo canvas man I really like your music coming out of the Hit Factory he's like I'm living like a music your brother said he was talking and I see the Haley coming down the behind him he said while I was looking right behind him feel the vision she was coming down the sidewalk so I was just looking at her yeah I didn't know they was together because I'm trying to tell you how crazy it was that Eric Benet was talking to me I didn't know who he was really and because I was hearing that all the time I didn't care I saw Halle Berry she's coming down so she walks up behind him I don't know she grabbed his booty or something and she you know she holding on to him and then I realized like oh she with him and I just felt so stupid because then I was like oh yo yeah we can work together you know but it was that kind of stuff was happening right clef was made or he opened on the doors for me but I don't yo I love cleft for that man Jerry I love playing they opened me up yeah yeah so so look even if things went sour cold Sour Whatever I got those memories man do you understand now the guy that you know does the Thousand mixtapes and you know gets the album that what I mean look can I bust this Platinum it's not gold no more right I think it's double Platinum double Platinum 25th year anniversary nice cleft didn't do a bad job the way that hip-hop went a little bit too hard they never sat and thought for a second everybody said what cannabis could have been but wasn't none of them trying to help accept clef you see the ones that the producers that's probably slamming this is not [ __ ] that I thought I was trying to say you scared too many people bro yeah you scared too many people you scared the [ __ ] out of [ __ ] you just heard did you hear what Don's just but you just said how many other rappers you think felt like that when you came around that was Major too help this [ __ ] help me he's a threat now help me give me Halle Berry and leave me alone it wasn't just the battle rap right I was really interested in other things right you know what I'm saying for young men yeah yeah I was trying to I was trying to navigate through all this and then I had this monster on me did you know that the institutions on me was like and I yeah I jumped out the window with that because that's because I was trying to get Grandma cribs you know what I'm saying I'm trying to hold my brother and I'm assuming yo yo I'm gonna do it man watch you know what I'm saying all the dreams we had right you know what I mean trying to prove to my father that yo I can do this right you know what I mean I remember my father he's Jamaica I'm gonna say this shut up you got in the car he's like yo so yeah man what's up I'm coming this see up on MTV man I'm from your activity like it's a process right you know what I'm saying like I had I had a lot of other things on my head right so when faced with any opposition like how you've been through it right you go through that wall man you don't have a choice yeah and I did it but I didn't do it knowing the collateral damage right I was I was young and I was trying to go with the culture I was doing it the best way I knew how and I know there was wise Elders man that could have I'ma say this shut up Biz God Rest his soul rest in peace but if you did a show okay solo Sean P was dead you know I'm saying eventually like you know would you help whatever podcast I was I could give you the footage you had to footage all in the in the session The Green Room together Biz goes business tells me the story about as he's talking because we held him down uh he was headlining the show Copenhagen Joel Ortiz was there yeah Copenhagen so um uh Biz Biz started having difficulty halfway through his set you know we jumped to the stage we started holding him down right when he got to you got what I needed man he didn't have to say a word you know what I'm saying I know we held him down yeah I'm talking about instinctively because he was having trouble not to say he can't do it but just that night yeah it was on the nose for him right we jumped on the stage we had we already had our bikes like yo yo yo my man go cool rock V and what you know what I'm saying and we held him down then it was over he was happy we jumped to the rescue without a word made of the show everybody then we got back to the green when we sweating he's like yo man yo he's happy you know what I'm saying his was like being said uh he said you can't miss it he jumped right into it I was really just kind of enjoying the moment Sean P was dead Okay solo and he really jumped right to the Cannabis man the Beats man yo you just needed the producers yo he jumped right into it I said this come on man he said no I'm telling you I said well [ __ ] where were you because I got Biz to check for the um Take This Job and Shove It John right the check was like a heavy check 50 pounds that's not sneaker money right you know what I'm saying I got Biz that check you know what I'm saying and it's like where were you when all that was going on where were you right I didn't go that way with it that was in the mind I did ask him once like the Bears like where were you when I needed the Beats what you talking about but there's nothing you'll be he understood what I said business was always Fair he looked at me blings like this he said yo cannabis and he started explaining something to me about you know what I'm saying like with him and Cain and he wrote some John and and he had to come out with it but then he had to wait and sup with him and Kane it was something that y'all would love to know right but Biz had to he went through a similar situation and told me I had to push through it and everybody was like this it was something serious not serious come to blow serious but it was something that damn I didn't know biz King wrote that forbids or I'm not gonna say Biz Road for King cause Kane didn't need nobody help right but it was something with a beat or a Jack and a hook and Biz had something he was telling them right and um and it was like if he would have listened to Biz he would have been able to do that because remember Biz was doing when we was in Copenhagen doing I don't know Biz was doing it but last time I saw Biz business had like the Tesla Jones look good he was he's fake he looked great I was happy for him right I got out the car with got out the Panama Johnny business over there by the time he said your cannabis sucks rest in peace man I just want to say like for a lot of the what the message I'm getting from your journey is and this is the message for like young artists right that's coming in the game is that number one is to not be afraid to embrace your talent right that's number one embrace your talent um and Propel that [ __ ] to the furthest extent past the Pinnacle purpose right and don't and don't don't ever inhibit yourself from what you can really do also understanding who your influences are right when you whoever your influences are and you meet them right understand that there's always an agenda going on right always understand that somebody who's in the Ivory Tower and you're where you're at and you're trying to get to the Ivory Tower there's always a gen an agenda between those two points of Steel you're 100 right right so now so now what happens is like you said with that first meet of you and LL Cool J in that handshake and everything this is my personal opinion there's a threat coming it's just like the Army is just like whoa there's a threat approaching boom we can see it coming up on the beach you see it two miles out two kilometers out is a threat coming how are we going to combat that right not saying anything against LL I love LL he's a legend but this is the thought process with these institutions we have to protect we have to protect on that it's a business it's a business you know I'm saying so for all the Young Artists out there understand who you're dealing with keep on like working on your crap only never forget that at the end of the day it is a business somebody keeps the lights on at their institutions that you might be trying yeah not not on top of that I think um I think I just think a lot of people wanted to see you fail um and and there's nothing there's something wrong with a person wanting someone else to fail they didn't do you don't know but it's like you don't know right it's like it's like stepping on the court with uh with Jordan you know what I mean Ron artez accidentally snapped a couple of George's ribs I mean do you know what that happened no it happened you know no I know the ball players no right he accidentally snapped a couple of his rigs on a like a uh like a scrimmage right and you know everybody was there was Matt because I did a like an album was wrong Ron's meta World Peace shout out the meadow world please shout out to Jordan right it was an accident he got excited then he snapped a couple of his Meadow World Peace was like Dennis Rodman he was solid like like one of them freight train type guys where he don't really know his strength all the time right accidentally injured him stacked a couple ribs the hate that came his way after that it was just like me with second round knockout and y'all didn't even know that but that's what happened so I don't know everything about Metta World Peace and with stats or whatever like my brother knows the Game Craze he could tell you all the stats everybody's stats but I can tell you this after that play the tape Meadow World Peace World kind of changed whenever y'all saw his stuff changing a little bit because he was still that guy he was after that little scrimmage that accident right that's what happened man well sometimes he he just he can't say that because you know that's how you see yourself and then it's how people see you and as much as everybody wants to be real you have to pay attention to how other people see because then you'll understand motives and and the way certain people move you'll get it you know what I mean like I used to wonder why the [ __ ] every time I go out and I meet [ __ ] they want to tell me all their War Stories why these things over here I started to realize oh these [ __ ] see me as Dad so they wanna they wanna impress me receptionally you know what I mean that's why they keep talking about Halle Berry man don't talk to me talk to me about that kind of stuff man because the rap stuff I've done enough of it been around enough of it I really could just add on to somebody with rap dealing with rap that's all I could do I never got to the situation where I had like why cleft power or mobile power where I could like sign an artist and put them on you know I helped a lot of artists get on feature on records my new record man I got Master Nisa you know Cali's already established but you know Marco Polo like we doing things to where you will I know we're gonna do jumps together but you know got to joined with names like we I'm doing things that are working with artists it's not my stuff it's just I'm doing that all the time but when the [ __ ] see me just don't talk to me about that like that's all I care about because you got to be crazy man like I'm a captain I'm a captain I'm not talking to you I'm really talking to them I'm a captain you know I mean I you know what I mean a captain a 50-foot yacht you know what I'm saying I have certifications for you know what I'm saying he's the ventilation and AC you know I'm saying I could drive strike his live 25s you know what I mean I get busy with five tons as well you know what I mean like I'm like two weeks to get my CDL like there's so many things I can do would you want somebody to run up on you while you're out there about that no now though this is now I'd Rather somebody talk to me as a as a human that has skill sets that's trying to be human you know talk to music sorry I'm sorry you signed up for the wrong [ __ ] yeah all the way through Bruce Lee's Hedges to talk to him about bonsai trees this was your metaphor from earlier on people used to going to Bruce Lee's house and tell them nobody's going into your house to talk to you about my man hands you know shout out to Coney Island went out of state you're tempted living a normal life from the stuff that we did in battle rap I would tell them all the time are you trying to be you trying to be Douglas you got a million people know you as Brooklyn hands um okay all right it is what it is bro you accept that it comes with it you you're the one that's going to start this school and give them that time-out safe space man somebody's got to do it you're most equipped to do it start the school get these people that that intermediary you know that intermediate they call it like a it's intermediary you give them that place to be to learn these things what you telling me man look I'm already kind of like past the gamut like like I told you man look Moon Cruise outside like Rakim loves the moon cruises right Moon Cruise outside right I'm saying I got my keys on me now you know that's coop in the airport garage when I go back right 50 foot yacht in the marina right I'm the captain you understand I'm trying to say like I'm already past all that when I'm doing it for a reason that's superficial not doing it to try to get on no sometimes a lot of people think because of what happened to me in my career that yo man I missed out on something I had it all not what these the mega mobiles got but who who else has had with the mega movies gotta set the mega mobiles Right double OG situations over here trying to get the triple OG the school school will get us there school will get it we're talking about school that'll get us there talk about it what all right professor what what can we expect in the future Mickey facts started the school yeah shout out and uh Mickey Mickey did a joint where he had a course he had the course of his hip-hop course your name came up in the course you also got one assignment that he gave out and asked the question about you know default Master Flex with X and cannabis and Nori and he just asked about X and candidates he said yo okay I need y'all to describe the difference between imagination and realism and realist imagination and then they went to it and he showed me footage of and I couldn't believe my eyes man people you know what I mean really go to this course to take it on the sensitive he was like yo man cannabis talking about [ __ ] that ain't even real you know what I'm saying this [ __ ] talking about he hit you make your shoulders touch and that [ __ ] ain't real mad DMX he always coming with that yo don't want you no get up 10 [ __ ] on them oh god with him like yeah the other guys like you know man cannabis crimes it's just so ill man all he can do is just make up stuff to try to tell you how ill he is it made me so happy you know like in my mind like I can't believe somebody doing this I love Mickey facts for that yes and not not being not being to you about rap that's why they talk to you about well but look not be in vain only was trying to put my resume and say can I rap with y'all that's all it ever was I just wanted to get off the benches and play with the with the dudes that I liked red man and you know what he did he let me wrap my 50 bars now that the fans will never forgive me if I don't ask you about that cycle as well eggs wow big pun Mike Geronimo at the table wow and Jimmy's bronze careful yeah yeah what do you want to know if I can remember everything I can't remember again because I was really in this much I know about it I had the Cartier's on with no frame so it was just the junk and then holding on to the lens I don't know them people were like twenty five hundred dollars man I just bought them how did you how did you get it look it wasn't a problem either I had to chain on I was chilling how did you get it how did that happen you heard about the cipher you just pulled up like I think a guy called Toray who ended up doing a lot of things had set that up because we knew he was all there for Taurus my good twin brother Victoria you know where the royalties off I'm so trying to find out where the royalties are for that [ __ ] round definitely a different tour that's like a Tory set it up he said all I know is when he was getting was like what's it for like Torres he's the guy he's on CNN and all that all the time all I knew was we was there for Tory bro that picture and then Rhymes just started breaking out who who rap first who said it everything was Satori Tori was handling the whole thing he was his camera it was it was we was there for him he bought the the he was sitting at the table with food coming when he went to eat two guys did you guys have conversations Toray had us all sit there and spill our guts man food was coming drinks he did he was the drink Champs 95 what was that 96 97 he did the drink Champs 97. drinks coming the herb was going you know what I mean like you know what I mean all we wanted to do was rap now if I said anything cocky listen man the second round knockout verse that I know I rhymed there I kind of wanted to just rap and get out of there I wanted to go see something that looked like Halle Berry you know what I'm saying I didn't want to be there I didn't want to be there so so what happened no no just something like that yeah right so so so so I'm trying to make it understandable right so so but what happened was I only said that because I said that rhyme because it was easy for me to remember I had so many I was recording and and pun was nasty and so was X and I wasn't trying to go through no [ __ ] Funk Master Flex 145 minute rap so I just wanted to do something definitive and get it over with I I did that wrong at the at the House of Blues and Shaq almost fell over the second floor when it when it when it happened Rock Kim was performing that night and when I did second round knockout on stage of the house it was a rocket launcher basically you come in a room [ __ ] just fronting this [ __ ] the second round knockout was like yo clear I cleared a room out with that right so at House of House of Blues Rakim was supposed to perform he did perform but you know when I when I did that and the crowd went so crazy anybody who's there tell you tackle Shaq almost fell over the second floor junk because he was he was into it and he's so big and so tall yeah did he lean and his mans you know had to grab him but put them back that really happened and shout out to Shaquille O'Neal right right one of the Mogul guys he wanted the triple ogs all right so Shaq so did what I did was or what happened was so crazy yo man it was like a haunted like a an hour and a half intermission before I came to us the stage man he didn't go on like five minutes after what I did it was so much energy in the House of Blues it was an hour and a half and I love rocking right and I'm telling you at that age I wasn't even able to take that in I can only say that to you now because it really did happen you know what I'm saying let's just keep it all the way up bro Tim didn't touch the stage for an hour not because of me but because the people left man [ __ ] wanted to get you the [ __ ] out of here [ __ ] wanna get get this [ __ ] the [ __ ] out of here man this chick is killing everything dude what we gonna do about this [ __ ] [ __ ] yo yo we need somebody to just get this [ __ ] out of here y'all remember you saying on the radio nah I don't go nowhere dog come back with me he's just trying to just ease their way out the sight for life where did that happen um who was you talking what was it it was either Nori or or X you said is one of the dope [ __ ] is my favorite if I ever get my hands on that instrumental okay yeah I'm going to Yellow Tape it there it is I'm going to Yellow there it is there it is yeah it is yes it is that [ __ ] that got you in trouble your career no I love the chat I understand I understand I understand but that those words from you if I ever see that [ __ ] I'm a yellow tape that's like a [ __ ] coming home from prison talking about you if I ever catch that yeah that [ __ ] is scary yeah you know I love nobody know me saying it because she ain't nothing right no no no no no no no no no nobody said nobody it's just we all see what I'm saying cannabis you don't see how other people see you you like a friendly Grizzly like who expects the grizzly not if a Grizzly is running up on you like oh [ __ ] I'm gonna die meanwhile he just wants to come up in life [Applause] what you guys doing over here so what did I do what did I do to dance in the battle after it was all over whatever I'm just saying I know it was this moment you know it was about a record yeah that was his moment right I didn't try to step on on it did I I gave it up I literally was trying to like all right man passing the torch in a way if it meant anything yeah I don't remember nobody's questioning I am a teddy bear yeah nobody's no yeah but you present like a Grizzly what do you want me to do but but this is what I'm telling you you gotta be able to pick up on how other people see that's what we want you I'm going to go to your school when you build it okay I'll let you know I just wanted to say this at the beginning like the one of the best battle rappers in the world told you he was influenced to come in to the place and stand outside the battle Eminem from my experience because you know we are the same age so I grew up listening hard Eminem looked up to you you know what I'm saying and I heard you say um things about like I think M was coming from a point of trying to make you rap again and come out and get you back in that light I don't think it was like malicious malicious I think he looks up to you and LL Cool J so are you coming so LL is you know people are arguing you know but the best rapper you know the best rapper that's ever been Eminem has is arguably the you know another best rapper that has ever been he one of the best battle rappers that I've ever been in all three of these people like the greatest rappers so are you as something that they needed to be aware that alone speaks of your greatness it's just for the acknowledgment like yo I'm a warrior I look at you as a master Warrior acknowledge you know I mean Here Eminem worms behind you I mean if you know hip-hop you listen to Hip Hop lies in it he listening to a lot of cannabis right you you and M collabing early in the game would have been [ __ ] thing like [ __ ] yeah but I'm still there you know what I'm saying it's still here Eminem allowed to you could be a phone call tonight your career is we our career is going to go as long as our life goes yeah because we're in the space now where you can just do what you want yeah it's not over we gotta think about radio records we got to think about unless that's the packages none of that [ __ ] just be an artist just be the artist I would just want to hear it you got men my age is age that followed you that we have kids you know what I'm saying so if you influence me right now with a new album what you think you just did to my future hold on baby what you said it was real too Amy Chan she's talking about with that okay I'm putting that out there listen smack the hell he helped me out with you all right sorry man yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um Mecca bigger right KO you see I'm trying right the level every now and then there's a there's a unique talent that raises the bar we saw it with Rocky um we saw it with knives [Music] saw it continue on with big hole cannabis is in that list cannabis is in that list believe it or not whether you admitted enough you're in that list freestyles how hard [ __ ] going with them shits you definitely inspired a lot of people now I've said it himself the [ __ ] out vote that night wasn't gonna make it I had to go back you raised the bar you feel me [Music] um and I thank you for your contribution absolutely absolutely foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause]